Ryan the Shaman

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  Do you ever fantasize...

  by i_drank_the_wine in

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  ...about funny revenge plots on the jw's?.

  - dressing up properly, going to a random memorial where the people don't know you, and "partaking of the emblems".

  - going to a random kingdom hall where the people don't know you, give a couple "real" jw comments to earn trust / cred., give a third comment that contains the "f" curse in it, then act like nothing happened.

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  Oooooooooooh catching and tying up a CO,

  then taking the platform and explaining that you're from the GB

  and give a long, boring talk that ends with "It's all been a joke, you're all free to go and be worldly now"
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  JW and Sham Honesty Story

  by mankkeli in

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  the jws take pride in their honesty, for many years, this has been a strong marketing strategy for the purity of their religious dogma.

  you may be familiar with many stories of their members retruning found wallet and so on, but here is an example found from the 2010 watchtower, march 15. .

  "emilio, an italian witness who works as a driver for a public transport company, found a wallet containing 470 euros ($680, u.s.).

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  I'm with you palmtree67, I think most people are pretty decent and value honesty.

  Which sort of means that Emilio's colleagues wouldn't be going "Wow! That guy is SO honest, I wanna join his religion!"

  Silly, silly stories they make up.

  Basic honesty is not THAT unusual.
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  Are they going to keep lowering the bar to be appointed an MS or Elder???

  by karter in

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  my mother told me of 2 young guys that have been appointed elders.. i could'nt belive it these guys have zero life experance and both their wifes walked out on them after a few years of marrage.. another one cooked his brain on drugs and his talks are painfull to listen to....all over the place and stumbles through them.. .

  is it due to alot of young ones (60 to 70%) leaving and the pool to pick from is getting smaller so lowering the bar is the only way???

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  Right On LittleMac! Honesty will definitely get you shit canned with the Elders. I was kind of the "last man standing" among the teens in my congo, hadn't been reproved or DFed. The elders were constantly at me to get baptized etc. Then I went to them to tell them I had tried pot, smoked it twice over a weekend, then waited 2 weeks to tell them (purely because it took 2 weeks for me to feel ANY remorse, and I didn't want to lie about it) ALL they could focus on was that it took so long to feel remorse - Lost all "priveledges", publically reproved, had to have a weekly study with a dickhead elder who just wanted to know the dirt on all the other teens. I'm pretty sure if I had put on the crocodile tears and lied about feeling terrible about it right after - would've been a different story. Know a baptised girl who wound up in about 5 different judicial committees for the SAME THING - Adultery, cries her ass off, gets away with it EVERY TIME I'm completely off topic now - sorry guys. Felt great to tell someone though
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  JW and Sham Honesty Story

  by mankkeli in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the jws take pride in their honesty, for many years, this has been a strong marketing strategy for the purity of their religious dogma.

  you may be familiar with many stories of their members retruning found wallet and so on, but here is an example found from the 2010 watchtower, march 15. .

  "emilio, an italian witness who works as a driver for a public transport company, found a wallet containing 470 euros ($680, u.s.).

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  One of my close friends had the CO over for dinner during his visit,

  and during the evening started talking to him about the long, emotional "experience" he'd relayed to everyone during his talk.

  (Some long convoluted thing about a Vietnam Vet. and his life story and finding the "Truth" etc. etc.)

  My friend really loved the story and found it very encouraging, at which the CO replied

  "Oh you liked that? Yeah I made it up myself" and was really proud of himself.

  My friend asked him to leave, then left the cult himself.

  Honesty among the rank and file - probably, but I suspect the higher up you go, the fuzzier the lines get.
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  Went to my first meeting today anonymously!

  by TimothyT in

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  hi everyone.. jack and i decided we would go to his local kingdom hall this morning.

  although i have no interest anymore in being a jw, i think its still nice to have regular bible discussions, etc, which can give you something spiritual to think about each week.

  i love it and i think its damn good for you.. today, jack and i walked in, a little nervous, but were greeted and welcomed like friends.

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  Ryan the Shaman

  Awwwwww Timmy! You sweet, sweet man. Big hugs from me brother...

  This is my first post on this forum (or any exJW forum), 

  I've been reading a lot of the posts here for the last couple of days and just had to comment on yours.

  There is definitely a nice feeling to going to a hall. I left (for the final time) in 2004 and since then I went to 

  every memorial and got roped into going to one day of one convention.

  When I walked into the convention there WAS a lovely feeling that I felt was a spiritual kind of thing.

  But since then, I've found that this feeling is always there when a group of people all believe essentially the same thing as each other

  and have gratitude for what they're learning.
  
  The fact that you went to this meeting undercover just before getting DF'ed sounds a little bit like getting one last fix
  of that nice feeling - totally understandable. After years of being ExJW it seems a lot like there are quite a few stages that you go through.
  I was convinced when I first left that I was the problem, and the society was right. Then that all religions are right in their own way, and armageddon was still coming etc.
  Now I feel like everyones just trying their best - so many good people on the planet you know. 
  (As for the society, the more I learn the more I can't quite figure out where they're coming from)
  
  So I went to a lot of different churches and buddhist temples etc. and chatted to new friends that I met, Hindus, Muslims etc.
  Was a brilliant thing to do. I think you're definitely on the right track there. Check them all out and find a spiritual community (religious or not)
  that loves you just as you are.

  Ryan